FreeArc is becoming more and more interesting...

[John]

@Black_Fox Thanks!!!

[Black_Fox]

BTW, how's the gui project going?

[LovePimple]

A temporary solution to this problem

Heres a MS Word document of that translated file...

Download freearc.doc

Can be viewed with Windows Wordpad.

[Bulat Ziganshin]

http://www.haskell.org/bz/FreeArc-eng.htm seems to be much better translation. i will use it as a base for english doc

[Vacon]

Hello everyone,

http://www.haskell.org/bz/FreeArc-eng.htm ...

Thank you so much Bulat!
If I did not get married last year, who knows... you and me...
Still some russian phrases are inside, but who cares...?

Best regards!

[Vacon]

Hello everyone,

@Bulat:
the "j" option of FreeArc gives the possibility to "melt" two archives. If same file exists in both source-archives, only one will survive in the united-archive. Ok, which one...? Older one, newer one, bigger one, smaller one? By chance?

Best regards!

[Bulat Ziganshin]

by chance ))

arc j new old1 old2 - result is undefined

arc j old1 old2 - file from old2 replaces file in old1

i.e. files from additional archives always replaces files in base one, but when additional archives contains multiple copies it is undefined which concrete copy will be included in resulting archive

Still some russian phrases are inside, but who cares...?

its only result of automatic translation. its rather awkward, i agree

[Vacon]

Hello everyone,

but when additional archives contains multiple copies it is undefined which concrete copy will be included in resulting archive

Hmmm, kind of sad...
I think if it were predictable users would have the chance to choose. But maybe it would cause a lot of code to implement that feature. Maybe you should communicate that problem in documentation.

its rather awkward, i agree

Its good enough to make me better understand what power FreeArc has!
The rest could be fine-tuned by hand by native speakers (sadly, I do not speak russian...). Its an enormous progress so far!

Best regards!

[Vacon]

Hello everyone,

"солид-archives" means "solid-archives", right?!
Btw: would you mind to link the english site from the "master-page" ( http://www.haskell.org/bz/ )?

Best regards! *learning russian*

[Bulat Ziganshin]

"?????-archives" means "solid-archives", right?!

yes

Btw: would you mind to link the english site from the "master-page" ( http://www.haskell.org/bz/ )?

this will make too much questions its better to finally make full translation; now at least i has the base for it

[Vacon]

Hello everyone,

this will make too much questions...

Hm, I see. On the other hand, it will make non-russians understand better what power your program offers. But as with FreeArc itself: you want to provide final version, without "bugs". So well wait patiently (more or less...)

...now at least i has the base for it

Me too.

What about http://www.haskell.org/bz/arc.htm ? I always get an 404-message.

Best regards!

[squxe]

Bulat, have you any plans adding BCJ2 (EXE-filter) in some future version of FreeArc? (now FreeArc uses BCJ)

[Gish]

Will FreeArc be released as Open Source (GPL)?

Where can I find a FreerArc0.40 binary for windows?

I've only tetsed FreeArc 0.36 (I know 0.40 is far better) and I'm sure that the only way to get succes is through Open Source...
CCM, FreeArc are already better than 7-zip but they really need to become GPL to have a chance...

In the meantime, LPAQ (GPL) is in my opinion the best alternative.
It is already supported by some program (e.g. PEAZIP, with has a nice gui and the automatic TAR creation).

[Black_Fox]

CCM, FreeArc are already better than 7-zip but they really need to become GPL to have a chance...

WinRAR isnt GPLed too and its wide-spread

[Vacon]

Hello everyone,

Will FreeArc be released as Open Source (GPL)?

Please have a look at FreeArc for Linux (other thread). It is OpenSource!
See http://www.haskell.org/bz/ for details.
And please do not double post.

Best regards!

[Gish]

WinRAR isnt GPLed too and its wide-spread

RAR had the advantage to be around by lot of time, at least 14 years (only zip and arj were older), but in few years 7-zip has got a greater popularity. RK (and may others freeware, not GPL) have never been get the same success of 7-zip even if they were technically better.
Well, at least thats my opinion.

Please have a look at FreeArc for Linux (other thread). It is OpenSource!
See http://www.haskell.org/bz/ for details.
And please do not double post.

Ive found the source of FreeArc, but
1) That is the 0.36 release, which is much worse of the last one, 0.40
2) Nothing is clearly said about the license: it is not clearly said if it can be freely used, and under which conditions. For instance, also PPmonstr release the source but it is NOT a true OpenSource (GPL).

Ill try not to replicate my posts... I did it because it was not clear what was the right thread I should post in...

[nimdamsk]

As i've said before FreeArc's author is reading this forum, and if he'll deside to post latest sources he'll do it sooner or later. I think there is no such concept as "true OpenSource (GPL)". GPL is one of the possible license, there are BSD-like, Apache-like and so on. AFAIK author wants to make FreeArc opensource, may be it's not finished yet to choose license.

[Vacon]

Hello everyone,

Ive found the source of FreeArc, but
1) That is the 0.36 release, which is much worse of the last one, 0.40

Thats the way life is -> new version shows better effects most of the time...

2) Nothing is clearly said about the license: it is not clearly said if it can be freely used, and under which conditions. For instance, also PPmonstr release the source but it is NOT a true OpenSource (GPL).

GPL isnt the only license for OpenSource. Public Domain is OpenSource too. Mozilla (FireFox, ThunderBird,...) are OpenSource too, but under MPL and so on and so on...
If I understood Bulat right, he doesnt want to deal with licenses, so anyone can use his sources and anyone can contribute (if he can program in Haskell...)
But its Bulats thing to comment on this! (He did already in other threads)

Best regards!

[Bulat Ziganshin]

Ive only tetsed FreeArc 0.36 (I know 0.40 is far better)

afaik, the summer 0.40 version was the same as 0.36, it just added MM compression. unfortunately, all the compression tests now includes a lot of MM files

PPmonstr release the source

where i can find it?

[Bulat Ziganshin]

Subject: SourceForge.net Project Approved

Your project registration for SourceForge.net has been approved.


Project Information:

Project Descriptive Name: FreeArc
Project Unix Name: freearc
CVS Server: freearc.cvs.sourceforge.net
Shell Server: shell.sourceforge.net
Web Server: freearc.sourceforge.net

[Black_Fox]

Subject: SourceForge.net Project Approved

That should answer most of the questions... Thanks and congratulations, Bulat!

[Vacon]

Hello everyone,

Thanks and congratulations, Bulat!

yeah! Thats a little step for you, but a big one for mankind!
Im sure it will help to spread and improve FreeArc a lot!
Edit Sat, 20th Oct.
Any schedule when you will upload files to SF.net or at least link to http://www.haskell.org/bz/ ?

Best regards!

[Gish]

Subject: SourceForge.net Project Approved

WOW...
Thanks, I wish you that your decision will give you rewardness and success... and you have a forum for FreeArc now.
Waiting your first release...

[Gish]

Quoting: Gish
PPmonstr release the source

where i can find it?

Here:
http://www.compression.ru/ds/
just scroll down the page or download directly the file (source+exe)
http://www.compression.ru/ds/ppmdj1.rar

However, I think LPAQ5 (GPL) is both faster and better than PPMonstrJ, see here for binary/source of LPAQ5 and some test:
http://cs.fit.edu/~mmahoney/compression/

[nimdamsk]

There are no open sources for PPMonstr, those sources are for PPMd only. PPMonster uses some closed know-hows
In my tests LPAQ5 mostly makes larger arhives than PPMonstr, but is little faster. In texts PPMonstr is real Monster

[Gish]

There are no open sources for PPMonstr, those sources are for PPMd only. PPMonster uses some closed know-hows

I did not notice that. The file read_me.txt tells : "You can not misattribute authorship on algorithm or code sources, You can
not patent algorithm or its parts, all other things are allowed and welcomed...". I supposed the source code was complete.

In my tests LPAQ5 mostly makes larger arhives than PPMonstr, but is little faster. In texts PPMonstr is real Monster

I suppose it depends on the tests, if you look at Matt Mahoney page, LPAQ5 is better:
http://cs.fit.edu/~mmahoney/compression/text.html
In my tests too (a set of 28Mbytes of text dictionary), LPAQ5 is better.

[Bulat Ziganshin]

lpaq is faster than ppmonstrJ but slower than ppmonstrI version. and together with my preprocessing algos (dict+lzp) ppmonstrI works faster than ccmx! so i'm searching for a ways to use ppmonstrI in FreeArc. if it will be impossible, i will go to use lpaq

[Vacon]

Hello everyone,

FreeARC now takes place 1, 2 and 3 (!) in the most efficient compressor ranking, it has very good compression and is still relatively fast.

Any questions...?
Congrats Bulat!

Best regards!

[Bulat Ziganshin]

if he will test -m2 mode, fa will get 4 first places

[Vacon]

Hello everyone,



Best regards!